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Started by Eric Walters. Last reply by Chip Pharr Dec 10, 2010.

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Comment by Kim Kanger on June 14, 2008 at 1:54pm
Never ever mix with water/soda or whatever. It's a matter of principle.
Comment by Andreas Ludwig on May 28, 2008 at 4:43pm
Amazing what four years can do>>

Every year counts, really. E.g. Jim Beam White (4 years) and Jim Beam Black (8 Years) - worlds apart!

@Don: If you say 'Grants', do you mean Glen Grant? If yes, then it is a true Single Malt, although not as expensive as others. Anyway, it will always depend on your 'dealer' ;-)
Comment by David Hughes on May 19, 2008 at 10:04pm
I think that whisky is pretty well chemically inert after about 8 years. Any change in the characteristics of the whisky after that is purely a function of how much flavour leaches from the barrel in which it is being stored.

So, to all intents and purposes, you'd be as well taking the 8 year old and adding some flavourings. An old Lagavulin - pleasant though it may be - is a different animal than an old Grange or Hill o Grace :)

I was told this by the blenders at Morrison Bowmore, so if I am remembering it correctly I imagine it is true.

None of which ought to detract from what is a masterful marketing exercise by the Scotch Whicky industry...

Another story told by the blenders concerns the early bottles of Suntory, which apparently caried the proud claim that it was "made from genuine Scottish grapes."
Comment by Don Lazov on May 7, 2008 at 7:57pm
I think Eric hit where I was coming from. I mostly drink blended scotch due to money.

I just picked up a bottle of Grant's last night for 16.99. It is really good straight, had a nice taste and was a lot darker then JW. I am sure it is blended cause all the singles I see are 29 and up. Wife can't bitch if I pick a 1/2 good bottle for under 22. Such is life, perhaps when the kids are all gone I'll move up.

A friend at work recommended a single malt that is really smooth, but I think it's like 80 a shot. Way to pricey for me.
Comment by Eric Walters on May 5, 2008 at 3:09pm

I'd say it depends on the malt. If you've ever had the 12 year Lagavulin Islay, it aboslutely demands a spot of spring water to "open it up"...otherwise the taste is an absolute jumble. Amazing what four years can do--the 16 year needs nothing and can be had neat with no trouble at all. I'm with you, however--it's very, very rare when I'll want any water at all with a pure malt. I'm pretty much a "neat" kind of guy from nearly everything. But there are those rare occasions.

Regarding ice, I save that for the blends. Johnnie Walker, Chivas, Famous Grouse, etc...always with ice. And if I'm going to add soda, it's always for the blends.

Talisker is marvelous. It's one of my favorites as well. Macallan 18 yr is good, but I can't afford to drink it anymore--not at the price it commands here. In Korea in the mid-1990s, a bottle could be had at the State Depart liquor store for about $35 back then, and we drank it like coca-cola--all the time. Those were the days.
Comment by Shannon Cooke on April 26, 2008 at 7:57am
I don't ever mix a single-malt with anything, even water. Many folks have told me to add just a bit of water to "open up" the scotch, but I don't do that. I like it straight, no ice, no nothing.
Comment by Don Lazov on April 25, 2008 at 11:36pm
Well I am currently drinking Johnny Walker mixed with Club Soda, it's a really nice taste on the rocks.

Do you all drink your scotch straight, or take them as a mix?
Comment by Shannon Cooke on April 22, 2008 at 5:55pm
I'm primarily a Laphroaig guy but enjoy a Talisker when I can. That smoky, peaty taste really grabs me. When I want a sweeter change of pace, I go for a Balvenie double-cask. The best I have ever had was Macallan 18-yr-old. My wife, not a scotch aficianado, says it is the best liquor she has ever had.
Comment by Don Lazov on April 18, 2008 at 8:05am
A junior here and due to my financial constraints I have chosen economy over quality. I can afford Johnny Walker (sadly red is the best price for me) and it does me well. I am probably against the grain as I like mine 50/50 with club soda or ginger ale. Perhaps in my older age I can taste some of the more exotic malts, till then black or red label will do for now (unless of course for 17-28 you can recommend a good bottle, junior remember).
Comment by Eric Walters on April 13, 2008 at 7:53pm
Pure Malt favorites--I confess a weakness for Islay malts. Top of the list is Lagavulin 16 year. I've tried the 12 and it just is all over the place. Lagavulin 16 is complex but hangs together and doesn't lose that even with a spot of spring water. Next is Ardbeg 10 year. Wondeful stuff--light but full of character. After that is Caol Isla, and I'm partial to the cask strength for that. Laphroig 10 year comes after that, although I've been known to prefer a 12, 15, and 17 year Bowmore Islay over it if available. The older Laphroigs just seem to lose too much zing, so I go for the younger stuff.

Talisker is marvelous and a favorite, but I'm partial to all the "classic" pure malts. I've got them all on the bar save for Glenkinchie, which is hard to come by in these parts.

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